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20. Sep 2009 at 17:38
 
Make yerself a cup of tea, its a long few posts for yer all to catch up.
 
My latest project I got few weeks ago. Wasnt planning another project, but it just kinda happened.  Got garage full as is with my VW trike, Harris, n Ninja fighter, but hey ho. Was at the right price and just round corner from me.
 

 
Had been sat outside n well weathered. Everything either rust or brush painted hammerite. Nice. Been sat for a year as had an electrical problem. Him n his mates couldnt sort it so gave up and it just sat in corner of shed in bits and several boxes. Tank got damaged from kicking about on floor. Few dents n a big ass dent underneath n tap snapped off. Why do I buy these things? Well its a 2004 bike and it was only £400, round corner and still had T&T on it and a few nice bits like braided hoses, renthals, high level race pipe, brand new discs F/R, Chain n sprockets, n stack of spares like brake pads another chain, etc, etc.  
 
Original plan was to break it, or just get it running n flog on for small profit as a tatty winter hack for someone. Got it running within an hour n phoned him and left a message on his machine of it revving away quite happily.  He wasnt too chuffed, but hey ho Im good at electrics too.
 
Anyway one thing led to another and decided to keep it n build a drag style bike out of it like this:-
 
http://streetfightercafe.com/images/6-17-2007.jpg
 
A style I havent done before. Always built streetfighters to handle n thought it would be something different. Completely pointless given I live on a remote scottish island with next to no straights, but miles n miles of twisty empty mountain roads with no traffic lights/junctions/cameras, etc. But hey got other bikes sitting there for the twisties, might as well build something different n silly. Show up local chavs imprezas n knee slider brigade up Stornoway who just ride round n round n round town centre all day............... when its sunny of course.
 
Right quick catch up via pics, cos cant be arsed typing every stage of it so far.
 
Stripped it down using a grinder as all bolts rusted solid! :-
 



 
Found some of the exhaust studs were welded onto collars as were snapped. Bodgetastic!:-
 

 
Sorted out loom properly as it was nothing but loose wires n selotape when got it as owner n mate had been attempting to `fix` it:-
 

 
Me mate Yantosh cut out damaged section on underneath of tank, built it back up n put on a new boss for the tap, which I got out of my mates junk pile:-
 

 
While it was there some mods for fuel return were done to allow fuel to be pumped back into tank above fuel level through one of original breather tubes underneath. Reason to be explained later in pics. lol. :-
 


 
Got this fresh GSXR750M motor (last of oil cooled models) offf a mate in exchange for a cut price lid paintjob for his girlfreind:-
 

 
Came with big 36/38mm slingshot carbs too, and matching CDI pack:-
 

 
Straight out of running healthy bike as he upgraded to 12 lump. 102 rwbhp stock n good 110-115 with some jetting n fiddling. Good strong lump n in good nick. So good in fact I sort of got carried away n bought this for £49 delivered:-
 

 
Bargain and in full working order with no play or owt. Correct airflow CFM and A?R ratio, etc to match engine characteristics. All turbo specs required off FastByMe who certainly knows his stuff. On standard motor at low boost to keep it reliable will give bout 150-160 rwbhp n vertical torque curve. Keeping it geared down to 150 flat out in 6th gear too, so will be damn quick acceleration. Yantosh is making my plenum and exhaust headers in exchange for paint too. Keeping costs down. lol.
 
Got a drag spec bandit 12 swingarm coming from Yantosh in exchange for some airbrushing on the SF mag project SV650. Underbraced and some one-off 6-8" extentions to keep front end down.......... hopefully. Might stick on some wheelie bars too. If yer gonna be silly, might as well be properly silly.  
 
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Reply #1 - 20. Sep 2009 at 17:48
 
Took sprocket cover off bandit 6 lump n attacked various spacer n fittings with grinder to make it fit 750 lump as has speed sensor coming off engine on bandit n want to keep bandit clocks as like em. Theyre the later electronic ones with swoopy dials on startup n leccy trip counter, etc:-
 

 
Got this Hall sensor on back that takes a signal from a castle nut type spacer on output shaft which I had to make fit 750 lumps sprocket shaft. All done tho:-
 

 
Frame was a bit `untidy`. Arrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. lol:-
 

 
No blasters or anything up here as wee island so to keep costs down spent bout 2 weeks of evening sitting with wire brush on end of drill n hand wire brush n various scraping tools stripping back frame:-
 


 
While doing that started cleaning up wee bits n bobs after work in evenings:-
 


 
 
Came up well considering they were just piles of rust, green moss n flaky paint. Amazing what bit of elbow grease n wet n dry n autosol can do. Sanded faded red (PINK) anodising off renthals n polished em up too. All done by hand. Top yoke got sanded smooth n polished too while at it as flaky silver paint aint my thing. lol.
 


 
Had a damaged helmet sitting on shelf which my wife was wearing in an accident few months back. Did its job thankfully, but back of it was shredded from tarmac. Wedged dominator lights in it that came with bike n thought wahey. Chop n repaint it n will do the job nicely. Smooth look, can airbrush it to death with rest of bits, n decent nighttime lights too. Gonna be a 2-up mile-muncher same as rest of my bikes after all. Need some practicality.
 


 
Got frame stripped eventually. Painted with brush on rust treatment to kill it off completely.  
 

 
Fell off hook while doing it busting me ankle (ok after few days) n putting hole in Harris clutch casing. Mates sending me thru some material tho so soon fix it in coupla hours. One of those things.
 

 
Sanded back n 2K primed:-
 

 
Sanded back n reprimed, n repeated that few times till got smooth frame rails in visable sections of frame once assembled. Drowned it in 2K black:-
 


 
Sanded back again visable areas. Built a workbench out of scrap pallets n bedframes out of our firewood pile:-
 


 
Saves me poor old back, and space. lol.
 
And thats us fairly up to date really. Just spent this weekend slapping some airbrushng onto frame in the sections that will be visable once together. Made it up as went along and turned out nice, well I like it anyway n its my bike!
 
 







 
 
Tother side:-
 
 


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Reply #2 - 20. Sep 2009 at 17:50
 
Removeable frame section:-
 


 
Flame licks come round to between downtubes too:-
 

 
Had stack of stainless gate bolts sitting doing nowt. Dirt cheap compared to stainless hex heads n available from local farmers shops for pennys. Had some sitting so less to spend out. lol. Turned down some frame fixings for removeable frame section on my lathe...................not. One £15 drill n £15 grinder n bit of wet n dry later.
 

 
Spring washer behind head to hold while tighten rear nut n voila!
 

 
Look cool n cost nowt. Original nuts were so rusted up had to grinder em off. lol.
 
Bodywork gonna be same theme as frame obviously. Blue true flame over bio-mech n skulls, etc. Spraying engine block next and polishing up casings, etc ready to slot into frame. Going to apply some airbrushing to engine block too. Going for organic complete look for bike. Even clock inserts will be airbrushed up to match paintwork.
 
Gonna be a very quick bike in a straight line which is what Im after just for the laugh of it. Gonna be cheap too. Had spent £450 between bike n turbo, but cleaned up original swingarm n 2K blacked it n sold it to a mate for his bandit:-
 

 
Few quid in pocket. He had a new front sprocket n nut I needed sitting spare too. Result.
 

 
Also sprayed up a mates lid black for him for another couple of quid bringing total down to £400 again. Set to drop again tho as just sold B6 engine, carbs, cooler n CDI to another mate. lol. Gonna be a cheap one thats for sure. Few bits to buy yeah (fuel pump, regulator, oil lines) but I`ll find em cheap or biker barter for em. Pikey............me?? lol.
 
I`ll add updates as go, but this is a long termer for me. In no rush whatsoever. Treating it as a hobby n doing odd hour here n there to relax. Want to build something nice on a serious budget just to show it can be done. Just a lot of time n patience.
 
Right off to let me typing fingers cool down............
 
Lemmie know what yer think so far. Workin on a budget of next nowt so being inventive. lol.
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Reply #3 - 20. Sep 2009 at 17:54
 
Slapped several coats of 2K black on tonight. Looks like plastic!  
 





 
Got good coverage n finish so pretty happy with it. Next step is licks of airbrushing ere n there to tie it in n then slap on some clear. And then its the dreaded casing polishing. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggh. lol.
 
Wee bitty done this afternoon in between chillin out.
 
These pics before clear cos aint done it yet. lol.
 
Starter motor:-
 

 
Genny backplate:-
 

 
Carb tops (x4):-
 

 
Bits I did:-
 

 
Should look nice when clearcoated n back together n suchlike.
 
Engines dried nice. Can see reflection of hose in paint just behind cylinder head in photo. lol.  
 

 
Hopefully lock meslf away for hour or two tomorrow n do the wee bits of airbrushing on that too. Clear coat em during week with comission work.
 
Apart from that just cleaning up odds n sods, like genny body:-
 

 
Started stripping back clocks tonight too. Wee rusty screws are being a twat to get out tho. Tryna get em apart to spray clock face inserts n black shroud, etc so it all ties in with wee touches ere n there. Got front mastercylinder cleaned up n back together on bars too. Wee chunks will add up eventually. lol
 
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Reply #4 - 20. Sep 2009 at 18:00
 
Nother wee bitty today. I`ll clearcoat engine n previous engine bits in next few days with comission stuff to give it a gloss finish again.  
 
Airbrushing on tho. Also found out engines had a rebuild n freshen up before I got it. Result!
 
Side of block:-
 

 
Few wee licks ere n there. Runs round to carb rubbers:-
 

 
Some Bio-mech n flames on flat bit of casing above clutch cover:-
 


 
T`other side more of same really. Few wee licks:-
 


 
Wee bitty above starter housing:-
 

 
Not so much on this side, but this side will be getting the generator cover and starter motor artwork done the other day bolted on so will balance out.
 
Still battling tryna get clocks apart. Tiny little rusty damn screws into plastic casing so going slow n steady tryna get em out. One left. lol.
 
Right thats you guys up to date to where I am. No rush project but doin an hour a day or so to chill out after airbrushing for a living all day. lol. Yeah I know airbrushing to relax from airbrushing for a living. lol.
 
Updates to follow as go. So far tho stands me £250 all in. All bike there n bits to come paid for in exchange for airbrushing, etc (long swingarm, plenum, headers). Few bits to buy like fuel pump/reg. Hoses, etc. Should be cheapola 150-160 bhp bike tho. Fearing it for 150 flat out so acceleration should be interesting. lol.
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Reply #5 - 20. Sep 2009 at 19:10
 
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Reply #6 - 20. Sep 2009 at 20:04
 
thats some crazy airbrushing
 
great work. I will be keeping an eye on this project
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Reply #7 - 20. Sep 2009 at 20:34
 
Holeeeeeee wow!  Nice skills!
It'll be great watching this one.
 
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Reply #8 - 20. Sep 2009 at 20:43
 
kool project man, love those true flames, wish I had your skill, gonna look the nuts!
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Reply #9 - 20. Sep 2009 at 22:27
 
Cheers guys. Trying out some new ideas. Showing off some paint as a rolling advert for my airbrushing business too. Dont think Im allowed to post up name of my business for advertising breach or whatever rules say, but if Im wrong someone tell me. Wink
 
Polishing a turd with this one n no mistake. Complete shed, but keeps budget down. £250 so far all in n counting, but want to keep it stupidly low. Just a lotta hard graft!
 
Want to build something fast to showbike standards using my basic tools n small budget to show it can be done to my mates who blow stupid money on catalogue junk. Roll Eyes Grin
 
Doing an hour or so a day so I`ll update as go. No rush for this one tho, treating it as a hobby to chill out with. Got ninja fighter, Z1B engined Harris Mag2 and VW trike in garage to play on. lol.
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Reply #10 - 21. Sep 2009 at 14:07
 
Awesome looking build, will watch with great interest.
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Reply #11 - 21. Sep 2009 at 16:31
 
Nother wee bitty after finished off comission lid today.
 
Cleaned up mastercylinder mounted onto bars with rest of refurbed bits n bobs.
 

 
Couldnt get clock dials off n didnt want to bugger clocks so carefully masked em n voila:-
 




 
Not clear coated other bits yet, but clear coating comission lid tomorrow so see whats left in gun each coat. lol.
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Reply #12 - 21. Sep 2009 at 17:26
 
looks cool man. i will be watching this project. Wink keep up the good work.
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Reply #13 - 21. Sep 2009 at 17:34
 
This in gonna be one nice bike, And your ninja fighter, it dint happen to be in a issue of streetfighters did it?  with somthing about a deer running out and knocking you off?  Grin
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Reply #15 - 21. Sep 2009 at 18:48
 
Alright Yan, yer found me then. lol.
 
Yeah ninja was in SF mag whiley back. Cant miss it as its covered in guns. Shocked lol. Grin
 
My harris was in issue or two before that. The red magnum 2 with the tuned Z lump in it. Wink
 
I`ll update every day or two as do something, but its coming on quite well methinks considering me budget.
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Reply #16 - 22. Sep 2009 at 12:33
 
She's looking great J. i must bring you a turd to polish this winter. oops... that should have read- my tank and frame to spray to match my shiny swingarm.
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Reply #17 - 22. Sep 2009 at 12:39
 
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Reply #18 - 22. Sep 2009 at 13:07
 
Ta rusty. Wee bitty ere n there, but lookin cool so far.
 
Yeah Rob bring yer stuff accross on ferry somepoint. Can 2K black it for ya. Strip bike n bring me parts accross. lol. Come accross for weekend n can take em back sprayed with ya. Wink  Fill yer car with everything needing sprayed black n can do it all together. Take em back accross n reassemble. Easy peasy. Cool
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Reply #19 - 22. Sep 2009 at 13:21
 
Cool work on the air brushing & nice finish on the engine  Grin
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Reply #20 - 22. Sep 2009 at 13:28
 
Really impressive  Grin
 
Its gonna look very original with the airbrushing.  
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Reply #21 - 22. Sep 2009 at 13:31
 
Ta. Keep me busy during winter.  Cheesy  Sorta rolling advert for my airbrushing too, as thats what I do for a living. Wink  Dont think Im allowed to mention business names on ere tho as classes as advertising.  Sad undecided
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Reply #22 - 22. Sep 2009 at 14:03
 
Very good Jon... heard that this bloke ain't bad either... http://www.pitstop-paint.co.uk/  Wink Ahem.
 
One thing that worries me though is all that paint going on before a dry build... turbo, up-pipe and plenum all going to fit okay?  Huh
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Reply #23 - 22. Sep 2009 at 14:22
 
Yer not only one said that bud. Going for simple log manifold out side of head. I.e. turbo sitting at side of head for a subtle look! Grin Grin Grin Gonna make a alloy/stainless support bracket to hold it off cam end cap bolts to take weight of turbo n save cracks in headers down line. Unconventional, but easier pipe fab as me n Yantosh are a 2 hour ferry n bout 300 miles away from each other so all getting done by post.
 
Up pipe, etc will be made by me outa flexible rubber hose mostly so can shape that myself to fit. Plenum getting made by Yan too. I`ll send him my carbs or something to work to for sizes. Can space out side panels if any fitment issues.
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Reply #24 - 22. Sep 2009 at 14:26
 
Front end gonna be slammed low like back so space at front where tubby would normally be will be handy for cooler/intercooler as wheel clearance will be lot less.  
 
Loadsa space for plenum back there tho without HUGE airbox. lol.
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Reply #25 - 22. Sep 2009 at 19:34
 
Got bits n bobs n engine clear coated today. Carbs stripped n cleaned internally. Still gotta scrub outer bodies, but spick n span inside anyway 125 mains in there, but can swap em out when get everything up n running for a setup.
 
Got generator back together and casings stripped off engine block to start polishing em, etc. Few other bits n bobs done today in between things.
 
Pics to follow cos photobuckets on strike n pissin me about. Arrrrrrrrrrrrggggh.
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Reply #26 - 22. Sep 2009 at 21:09
 
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Reply #27 - 22. Sep 2009 at 21:23
 
This is going to be one awesome looking machine when it is finished  Cheesy. I love the airbrushing and i am amazed at how much it has cost you so far Shocked I have never been a big fan of the new shaped bandits all ways prefared the old shape but this has totally changed my mind i wanna build one now lol  Tongue  I will be keeping a close eye on this build so keep up the very good work  
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Reply #28 - 22. Sep 2009 at 22:46
 
holy shit jon, your here as well. Grin
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Reply #29 - 22. Sep 2009 at 22:48
 
he's whoring his piktures all over internetland  Grin
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Reply #30 - 22. Sep 2009 at 22:51
 
i reckon hes bored and if theres any more "lols" i`ll call him mitch........ lips sealed
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Reply #31 - 22. Sep 2009 at 23:04
 
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Reply #32 - 23. Sep 2009 at 12:55
 
Quote from andyp on 22. Sep 2009 at 22:46:
holy shit jon, your here as well. Grin
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Yeah I get everywhere, the whore that I am. Almost as bad a forum whore as Yan. Grin Tongue Wink
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Reply #34 - 23. Sep 2009 at 12:58
 
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`Leg Over Ladies`, steady on you`ll get him excited. Grin
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Reply #35 - 23. Sep 2009 at 12:59
 
Pics at last now photobuckets working again. lol.
 
Genny back together:-
 

 
Starter motor:-
 

 
Carbs cleaned out n back together (just need good outside of body scrub):-
 

 
Engine all clearcoated n shiny again:-
 






 
Started stripping off casings for polishing:-
 

 
Dunno if polishing cam cover or spraying silver yet. Gonna be twat to polish. I`ll see. Casings got some serious scrapes n chips outta em. Gonna take flap disc on grinder n sander to em n see if can get rid of worst of em before polishing. Be a few days of looking like a black n white minstrel before updates folks. lol.
 
Where Im up to anyway (+ engine of course):-
 

 
Want casings back on engine before go for engine into frame task without chipping paint. lol. I`ll leave off sprocket casing/genny/starter till engine in frame to maximise my clearance issues getting it in. Gonna go for old engine on its side wrapped in cloths n tape n lower frame over with help of a glamorous assistant (me gorgeous missus). lol.
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Reply #36 - 23. Sep 2009 at 13:00
 
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Long time no see bud. What times yer turbo R1 running these days? I predicted ultimately high 8`s years back. Wanna know how close my guess was. Grin
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Reply #37 - 23. Sep 2009 at 14:21
 
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This is going to be one awesome looking machine when it is finished  Cheesy. I love the airbrushing and i am amazed at how much it has cost you so far Shocked I have never been a big fan of the new shaped bandits all ways prefared the old shape but this has totally changed my mind i wanna build one now lol  Tongue  I will be keeping a close eye on this build so keep up the very good work  

 
Was never a fan of later types neither bud. Would have preferred an early style too, but this one came up round the corner (literally) and given where I live was just luck, and it was shit cheap.  Grin Was gonna tidy up n flog on for profit, but its grown on me so ninjas going instead. Be a nice solid comfy 2-up mile muncher for us. These are the pics that did it for me n made me mind up:-
 


 
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Reply #38 - 24. Sep 2009 at 10:39
 
Got a photo today of last nights bitty.
 
Casings well scabby n scored/chipped up under paint or what was left of it:-
 

 
Took sander to worst of scrapes n got carried away n sanded off lettering and rounded all edges, etc. Got rid of 99% of marks tho. Couple of tiny marks that are too deep to sand out, but only tiny. Couple hours last night with wet n dry n bitta polish. Need a proper buff with drill but my polishing mops dead so  will have to wait till get a new one to finish them off properly. Looks ok tho:-
 



 
Think smoothy look works quite well against complexity of airbrushing. Nother buff up with a new polishing mop n shuld look ok. Grin
 
Start sanding another cover back tonight. Not my favourite part of a build.  undecidedlol.
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Reply #39 - 24. Sep 2009 at 18:59
 
that engines looking awesome jon, hats off to ya.
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Reply #40 - 01. Oct 2009 at 19:54
 
I am still workin on this project dont worry. Took a step back from it recently as personal problems overwhelmed any inclination to work on it or generally do owt. :hrm  
 
Back on with it again now tho. :upup  
 
Clutch and other crank casing sanded smooth/polished and back on. Starter too! Looks fab. Not sticking altenator on till in frame tho to maximise clearance.  
 



 
Oil filler plug was `slightly` tight! Dont know my own strength. lol.
 

 
In process of stripping cam cover just now. Not sure whether to attempt to polish it or paint it silver as would be a bastard to do and keep shiny under tank. :hrm  All the fins, etc. I`ll fink of what options n make a choice.
 
Not far off engine in frame stage anyway. :wink:  Under cam cover spotless like rest of engine.  
 

 
Valve clearances fine, cam chain looks very new as do guides. Think I got lucky with this engine big time. :coolg  
 
Once cam cover done engines on its way back into frame.
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Reply #41 - 04. Oct 2009 at 18:38
 
Still coughing my guts up ere with the flu, but had a spell this afternoon of couple hours where felt able to be upright so got wee bitty done.
 
Frame n engine reunited n altenator back on:-
 




 
Me gorgeous missus Linz gave me a hand line em up, etc. Couple tiny scratches on frame in unseen areas, but nowt I cant touch up so alls good.  
 
Just rear engine bolts in at mo as not cleaned others up yet, or ground down more of my stainless fastners for removeable frame section. Needing new flap discs for grinder, but up town wednseday so I`ll grab some then n get em made up n everything bolted in tight.
 
Chopped down my scrap workbench a foot or so to easier height now. Turned it round so got access to both sides for assembly as clean bits up. My wife also gave me a hand lift the frame/engine back up onto it again. Garage tip of the day:-  `marry a yorkshire lass`. lol.  
 

 
Cam covers not done yet, decided it would be a nice touch to grind/sand off all the fins and casting marks for a smooth look like rest of engine casings. Needless to say its a lotta work. Should look cool smooth n polished up tho like rest. Wasnt wanting to let the cover hold me back tho so went for engine in anyway. lol.
 
Grab some more flap discs mid week as said n get rest of frame fixings made/cleaned up n that bolted together properly. Get the cam cover done n back on, and then probably move on to front forks since have top yoke/bars, etc already done n sitting waiting.
 
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Reply #42 - 04. Oct 2009 at 19:55
 
if I remember correctly, very early GSX600F models had an almost smooth camshaft cover. I could be wrong though.
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Reply #43 - 08. Oct 2009 at 18:55
 
Not got hell of a lot done. Works manic. Been working last couple weekends and evenings too to try catch up with comission work. Still not a bad complaint. Gotta grab the work when its there n not keep folk waiting.
 
Sanded back sprocket cover over last few eveings removing worst of scrapes. Got to last bit under normal clutch actuator housing n found a fucking crack. Flexed my moobs to see how bad it was and snapped the casing in half. DOH! Was going to fling it off nearest wall then realised I dont need most of cover anyway as on my motor the clutch actuator is on the clutch cover side.  
 
Attacked what was left with grinder/sander, etc, and ended up with this. Does the job n dont look too bad I reckon. Saves cost of another cover too. lol.
 

 
Bit of grinding n fiddling with spacers got bandit leccy speedo sensor mounted to gixer 750 output shaft:-
 

 
Carbs remounted with some new hoses n bodies scrubbed up, etc:-
 


 
Took completed handlebars oota downstairs toilet wedged em on roughly in place to get em out of my way in house. Be getting bolted up soon anyway. Clock inserts look cool in situ. Nice cow horn bars. lol. Mooooooooo!
 

 
Still fighting with cam cover, but times against me till work dies down a bit. Still Im in no rush. It`ll be done when its done.
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Reply #44 - 08. Oct 2009 at 19:08
 
with a sprocket cover like that, your nicely painted engine and alternator will be covered in chainlube and dirt very quickly
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Reply #45 - 08. Oct 2009 at 20:06
 
Yeah I know. Not spending out on another one tho. Just have to keep on top of cleaning same as rest of bikes really.
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with a sprocket cover like that, your nicely painted engine and alternator will be covered in chainlube and dirt very quickly

 
And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the cover partly there to stop a snapped chain ripping lumps out of the engine casing? Nice build BTW  Smiley
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Reply #47 - 09. Oct 2009 at 18:52
 
Try wurth dry chain lube,
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Reply #48 - 11. Oct 2009 at 19:30
 
Nother bitty today. Got cam cover done n on. Not perfect but best I can do with basic hand tools n graft. Any imperfections wont be seen once coil leads, hoses, bodywork, turbo pipework, etc, etc on. Dont look too bad tho n summit different for nowt outlay.
 




 
Ground down some more stainless bolts and got removeable frame section bolted up properly:-
 


 
Breather cover to clean up, couple frame touchups from getting engine in, and then onto front end next methinks.
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Reply #49 - 11. Oct 2009 at 19:57
 
Wow...Stunning work Jon Cool
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Reply #50 - 14. Oct 2009 at 14:24
 
Not a lot to report progress wise as not had much free time with work n guff. Cheers for good comments so far tho folks. Keeping me chipping away at it. Cool
 
Cleaning up wee random bits n bobs in spare time tho n sticking em on. Coils took about 2 hours to clean up!  
 
Some eeejit had colour coded them to match rest of bike in 4" brush and red smoothrite. Duh! Scrubbed up ok eventually tho. Found Taylor leads beneath the smeg too which was cool.
 
Cleaning up odd`s n sods so post a proper update somepoint once got something substantial to show. lol. Works just too busy to get anything substantial done so picking away at wee odds n sods. Folk from states posting lids over to get sprayed n all sorts. Good tho. Cool
 
On side note tho PandKG (Pinstriping and Kustom Graphics) magazine are wanting to run a bi-monthly feature on the build focussing on the artwork obviously. Good advertising for business tho as that mag has a feckin HUGE readership worldwide. Got in touch with em about running a small cheap advert n ended up doing editorial. lol.
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Yup busy, busy. Grin
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Reply #54 - 18. Oct 2009 at 18:48
 
Have been chipping away at this honest!  Grin
 
Coils, tank rubbers, loadsa misc bits, etc cleaned up n on:-
 

 
Rearsets looking bit better than smoothrite n rust originals:-
 

 
Some matching flames/bio-mech airbrushing on wee bits like shifter arm:-
 

 
Sidestand:-
 

 
Shift rod:-
 

 
Footrest brackets:-
 

 
Polished up footrests n removed those horrible 1/2 ton lead weight things on bottom.
 
Tother side:-
 

 
Cleaned up n painted wee bits like frame brace, relay mount bracket, etc:-
 

 
Stripped seat release mechanism as rusted solid:-
 

 
Where Im up to:-
 

 
In middle of chopping undertray up with grinder n smoothing it off to sleeken up rear end. Hate those original snow-plough extensions, lol:-
 

 
Polishing up exhaust can n bracket at mo too:-
 

 
Decided to use some of old exhaust system. Dont really need can on it with turbo as cops/mot guys up here really layed back on loud pipes. Wanna run it tho as a race can so not too quiet, plus turbo will suck up lot of exhaust noise. At least I can go touring 2-up and down south n stuff without getting too much police hassle. Got a Db kliller insert with the bike so can stuff that in for longer trips to keep the plod happy. lol. Nice high level setup too, but can mount it anywhere really so options are open.
 
Box of bike bits I got with it looking sparce:-
 

 
New brake pads x3, 2x new chains, wheel spindles, n brake parts really. Couple indicators, tax disc holder. Not a lot left really to go on.
 
Got rear wheel and front forks/wheel under desk so they`ll be dragged out before long as running out of small bits. lol.
 
Brand new Suzuki discs on both wheel I noticed too. Bonus.
 
Got new bit of lexan through from Yantosh. Cheers bud. Really need to fix borken clutch cover window on Harris somepoint too so can give it a good clean n thrash.
 

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Reply #55 - 18. Oct 2009 at 18:53
 
Did these bits for a mate`s GSX 750 project to help pay for the gixer engine in the bike I got off him.
 
Transformed his old manky 80`s switchgear which had seen better days into this to match rest of his bike bits:-
 





 
N a catch tank:-
 


 
Switchgear on my bandit cleaned up pristine and as new, but looking at how the above manky old switchgear came out with bit of TLC is making me think I should strip my own switchgear back off n airbrush it.  Grin Roll Eyes
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Reply #58 - 19. Oct 2009 at 22:09
 
Not a lot today, but nother wee bitty.
 
Chopped the rear undertray standard snowplough extension off n smoothed out as much bits of it as possible. Looks pretty good.
 

 
Got it mounted:-
 

 
Looks nice n smooth fitment now:-
 

 
Better side profile too. Much sleeker than crappy stock setup:-
 

 
Dug out wiring loom and gixer CDI box so I`ll get that all back on the loom and connected next few days n see from there really.
 
Gave up on cleaning up exhaust can/pipes as not sure 100% where its going on bike yet as options are well open. Might cut it down 6 inch too so gonna have to wait till more bodywork bit on, etc and see how its looking and turbo pipework routing, etc.
 
Nowt left in bits box except brakes n few random suspension bits. Under table is front end and back wheel so looks like theyre next in line so have something to bolt brakes to. lol.
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Reply #59 - 20. Oct 2009 at 19:11
 
Ok now Im stuck! Thought it was all going far too easily. lol.
 
Didnt get much chance to look at it today as airbrushing till late on. Went out to do a quick 1/2 hour of getting loom layout sitting right round frame tubes, connect few bits n bobs, etc. Basically make a start on getting electrics done.  
 
Thought it would be a straightforwards job as loom mint after sorted it. Knew I was gonna have a few slight problems because of gixer engine. i.e. no carb position sensor/carb heaters. Just taping them up tho as not needed on loom now. Few engine connector blocks different too, but again no biggy to figure out. Plain sailing I thought as pretty good with electrics.
 
Went to swap over CDI packs to the gixer one to match the engine Im using, and the sodding pins/connectors are different. Probably down to the TPS system which alters timing to match throttle position, etc.
 
Gixer CDI on left, Bandit CDI on Right:-
 

 
Gixer CDI pack standard sized pins so can stick some individual connectors on easy enough, but bit stuck as to what to connect to what.
 
Got bandit and gixer manuals here, but doesnt show pin/colour wire sequence. Can get wire to pin sequence off bandit loom, by following wires, but dont have a gixer loom to see which wire goes to which pin! HELP!  Can anyone draw me out a pin diagram of gixer cdi/loom connector showing pins and wire colours so can figure it all out??
 
If have both sets of info I can probably sit down with both wiring diagrams and figure out the right pin sequence. Bit of an unexpected bugger tho.
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Reply #60 - 20. Oct 2009 at 19:15
 
Suppose obvious answer is leave bandit CDI on there, but what diff is it going to make?
 
Its a gixer 750 motor. Was told its an M model, but screw n locknut adjusters in head so must be an L model?
 
Will built in rev limiter on bandit CDI restrict gixer upper rev limit. Not sure what is on these lumps. Reckon its 12,000rpm on bandit n 13,000rpm on gixer, but not 100% model to model.
 
Wont need to rev arse out of it anyway with turbo on there, but wondering if any pros/cons in swapping/not swapping em over.
 
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Reply #61 - 20. Oct 2009 at 19:16
 
i can post tomorrow about the GSX-R750 loom and CDI
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Reply #62 - 20. Oct 2009 at 19:28
 
That would be cool bud! Cool  I`ll get a diagram of pin/colour sequence done off bandit loom and can work it out from between the two. Cool
 
Bandit CDI would be easier, but would prefer 750 CDI on there tbh. Should be easy enough to figure out tho.
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Reply #63 - 20. Oct 2009 at 21:23
 
Bit crude but:-
 

 
Pin and wire colouring done from loom, wire purpose from manual wiring diagram. If can get similar gixer data off someone should be able to peice the 2 together and wire in gixer 750 CDI. Cool
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Reply #64 - 20. Oct 2009 at 23:13
 
Been studying gixer manual and swap over looks easy once identify pins/wire colours. Can anyone check theyre bandit/gixer ones for me? Just need summit like above showing pins on CDI, and which colour wire goes to each from loom. Dont need any other info to work it out as have it already here.
 
All looks straight forwards. Few differences between em obviously, but not hard to figure out. Gixer cdi has no TPS wires, no 2 wires to neutral switch, seperate feed to tacho, no seperate power feed to coils and cdi but combined, etc, etc. Once know what pin goes to what colour wire on gixer can chop n solder the wiring about at the CDI connections. Cool
 
Might need to bridge neutral switch wires at worst to make it run. Should work out ok tho.
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Reply #65 - 21. Oct 2009 at 07:29
 
referring your pic in post #59:
 
GSX-R cdi pin numbers
1  2
3  4
5  6
 
7  8
9  10
 
1&2&3 not used
4) black/blue - from pick up
5) black/red - to rev counter
6) yellow - from pick up
7) black/white - ground
8) orange/white - 12V to coils
9) black/yellow - to coil 2+3
10) white - to coil 1+4
 
all this according to a loom I have lying here (750L I think), and an original Suzuki service manual.
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Reply #66 - 21. Oct 2009 at 11:12
 
Cheers bud. Cool Cool Cool  Mucho appreciated. Wink
 
Gotta go airbrush all day, but I`ll sit tonight n work out my wires. Grin
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Reply #67 - 21. Oct 2009 at 20:14
 
Got it done tonight! Woohoo. lol.
 

 
Took a bit of figuring out getting the 12 odd wires onto 6 cdi pins. Couple of wire splices, and taped off few now obselte wires (2 for TPS and 2 for netural switch engine limiter, etc).
 
Used standard shielded spade connectors which were a nice tight fit on pins. Taped it all up too, just in case. Pretty well protected behind undertray and seat unit plastics, but better safe than sorry.
 
I`ll get rest of loom on in next couple of evenings. Need to chop about couple of connectors onto engine which are different. No biggy to figure them ones out tho compared to cdi wiring. lol. Tape up a few obsolete connectors as go along too like carb heaters/TPS, etc. Worth taking time with wiring tho to avoid hassles later on. Get it fed round frame, etc nice n neat and everything soldered up, etc.
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Reply #68 - 22. Oct 2009 at 16:35
 
Weeeellllllll. Did a bit of wiring in between clear coating this afternoon. Got everything chopped about engine connection wise, and clock wiring worked out, etc, etc.
 
Looking fairly neat:-
 

 
Tucked front section of loom into headstock area to cut down on wires and connector blocks visable at front once get that together.
 
Took sidestand switch and neutral switch wires down under sprocket cover n up back of engine to neaten up whats on show. Some blue mini zip ties on starter wires, etc too.
 


 
Still need to solder/tape up a few wires, but got a problem!
 
Altenator wires! They dont match connector wise. No surprise as rest of engione connectors didnt match either. Chopped em off went connect up n wire colours are different. Checked manual and they dont even match wiring diagram colours, or give any explanation about what goes where in genny.
 
Heres gixer genny wires on left (one red, and one pinky/orange), and bandit wires on right (one black, and one black and brown).
 

 
Checked in manual and bandit wire colours are red and black/brown. Hmmm. Looked at bandit lump to get an idea n totally different genny. Black wire went onto bolt originally (yellow circle), and brown/black wire went onto one of the pins (red circle) with the other pin left blank.
 

 
Looking at wiring diagrams for both bikes, both genny outputs are live. One connects into wiring/fuse box, etc, and the other connects into lighting circuit. Presumably lighting one is at higher wattage that other.
 
Well stumped with this un. Cant think of way of figuring it out apart from leaving disconnected till up n running then measuring genny outputs to figure it out. Anyone know theyre gixer/bandit genny`s??
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Reply #69 - 22. Oct 2009 at 18:38
 
Soldered n taped up rest of loom anyway n got it tucked away as much as possible n zip tied up, etc. Just those 2 wires to figure out. Emailed my mate whos an electrical engineer to see if he can shed some light on it. Does complicated leccy stuff for a living like building test torpedos n stuff so fingers crossed he can figure it. Failing that Im gonna have to wait till get running n measure both outputs to figure em out.
 
Only wires left are plugs for indicators/horn/lights when go on tho which is cool. Gonna dig out front end tomorrow n make a start on cleaning that up.
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Reply #70 - 22. Oct 2009 at 21:50
 
Think the alternator on gixers has 2 outputs still. One of which runs a balanced 12V AC output. i.e. have to have right sized lighting bulbs or end up with dim lights or constantly blowing bulbs. Waiting on techy confirmation tho to figure it out. :hrm  
 
Anyone wanna meter test theyre gixer alternator outputs? lol.
 
Came accross this site on my searches which mght be handy for someone not up to scratch on leccy`s.
 
http://www.btinternet.com/~jhpart/bkwirec.htm
 
Might be handy for someone. Breaks it down into primary school language. lol.
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Reply #71 - 22. Oct 2009 at 22:48
 
The electrics site is excellent.
I wish i had found it before i made my loom, but i allways think  it more rewarding (but also more time consuming)  figuring it out myself.
 
This bandit is a great build.
 
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Reply #72 - 23. Oct 2009 at 09:33
 
Got yer e-mail Jon.
Dunno why your wiring colours are different but someone was messing with it before wern't they?
The black and brown wire on the bandit is the exiter coil, it needs a switched +ve to excite the alternator. nothing to do with the lights, just a handy point to get sw +ve from.
Gsxr is the same, red to battery and "pinky brown" actually orange, to switched +ve.
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Reply #73 - 23. Oct 2009 at 11:47
 

 
Pin 5/ orange and yellow is not cdi+ve mate. it's the dreaded 100ohm resistor to earth in the ignition switch. remember pushing my bandit?
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Reply #74 - 23. Oct 2009 at 13:05
 
Cant be to earth bud. Has to be a positive supply to cdi bud with a limited voltage through 100 ohm resister. undecided
 
Gixer cdi pack has a combined positive feed to cdi through switched live to coils feed pin. Set mine up same.
 
I`ll email you what I put to what later on to make sure Ive not cocked up. Grin
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Reply #75 - 23. Oct 2009 at 19:42
 
Everythings sorta on hold till me mate looks thru leccy info n works out whats going where for me. Dont want to hook up battery till know what Ive dones right CDI and charging system wise. lol. 99% sure its right, but Rob`s better at leccys than anyone I know. Peice of mind n all that getting him to look over what Ive done.
 
Ooot for a good blast today on ninja fighter with Linz. Nice n sunny here today, just cold so while kids where at school we got out to play for afternoon. lol. Gave it a damn good thrashing n generally had fun. Did fall off edge of back tyre couple of times as per usual. Doh. :headbang:  
 
This evening I stripped off the damaged Harris clutch casing (when bandit frame fell n went through it!) n cut it about n made up the new lexan insert for it, etc. Get that bolted back on tomorrow n can give bikes a damn good clean/fettle over weekend. Theyve been sitting dormant for a while covered in smeg from grinding back bandit frame and engine into some sort of usable shape. Good 1/2" of red smeg over everything. Thats my weekend planned. Wash, polish, polish, polish, lube, wax,.................... oh and a test run or two to make sure harris n trike are running ok. Gotta be done.  Grinlol.
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Reply #76 - 23. Oct 2009 at 21:19
 
cracking thread/build you got here jon.
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Reply #77 - 23. Oct 2009 at 23:13
 
Cheers bud. Amazing the interest this projects collected along the way from forums n mags, etc. Wasnt looking for another project, but was at right price n saw potential for a nice bike cheaply. Grin  Few folk locally that have spent good 5-10K building fighters that are just bolt on catalogue stuff really.  
 
Wanna show em what can be done with bitta thought, graft n little money. Trying out some new things n showcasing my airbrushing along the way. Seems to be capturing folks imaginations tho which is cool. All for budget built owner customised bikes with one off ideas n home made bits. Certainly the bikes that hold my interest at rallys n such having a nosey, cos theres a story behind each peice. Wink Should be a good bike this when done I reckon. Comfy 2-up mile muncher with a lick of speed. Cheesy
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Reply #78 - 24. Oct 2009 at 14:30
 
After a fookin lovely day yesterday, today its pishin it doon up ere! River of water running down road. Grrrr. :-
 

 
Got Harris clutch cover back on tho after its slight bandit frame interface. lol. :-
 

 
Dragged both bikes out n stood in the rain giving them a damn good scrub up. After about 5 buckets of soapy water I finally found them underneath the grinding n wire brush bandit smeg. I know theyre technically kwaks but bandits my first Suzi n loving it. lol.  :-
 


 
Can sit in the garage to my hearts content in the evenings fettling n polishing them back up.
 
Anyway not much bandit related to speak of as concentrating on getting other 2 bikes cleaned up n running (harris). Trike just needed a wipe over which was cool.
 
With bikes out of garage got space to drag out bandit front end n look it over:-
 

 
Looks like pile of crap same as rest of bits pre elbow grease. Deceptive tho. Brand new suzuki discs on front and back wheels. Only had bout 100 miles of use by previous owner before bike went off road:-
 

 
Took wheel off n stuck to one side with back wheel. Do them after forks, etc together as will be airbrushing centres/polishing them as a pair anyway.
 
So these are the next bits in line to clean up in evenings:-
 

 
Yoke manky but wire brush n paint can sort that. Forks well rusty up top end where they were hidden weathering behind those shitty original headlight brackets.:-
 

 
Removed n binned them as fooked n just plain ugly. I`ll `buy` (against the blood I know) some new light brackets for forks, or solid mount to 2 tags at bandit frame headstock when get to that stage.
 
Bottom halfs of fork stanchions mint tho n unpitted. I`m thinking along lines of shrouding top halfs of forks where bad in metal tubing between yokes to hide the rusty sections. Best option can think of really.
 
Sorry bout non interesting update, but hey ho every builds got boring bits. lol.
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Reply #79 - 24. Oct 2009 at 23:30
 
Heres the cdi info Im having checked over if anyone wants a nosey n throw in an opinion.
 

 
Bandit cdi and config table to left, gixer to right. Red box in middle is connections I made.
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Reply #80 - 25. Oct 2009 at 14:37
 
All wiring issues sorted now n soldered up. Back on with the build. Cool
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Reply #81 - 25. Oct 2009 at 17:19
 
Went out this afternoon n connected battery n battery charger to gimmie a bit of power, and................................nowt. Waaaaah. lol.
 
Cut open loom, quadruple checked cdi connections, checked clock/ign wiring. Couldn't find a problem. After about an hour of bridging wires straight to battery n sitting with voltmeter I swapped round starter relay connections n bingo!
 
Heard the swoosh of the clock dials n everything lit up ready to go-ish (well no oil/forks/wheels, etc, etc lol).
 
Shouted `Yeah Baby` very loudly and heard a couple of tourists walking by gasp n ask what was that. Oops. lol.
 
Everything working as far as can see anyway. Dash/clocks/starter/lights, etc. Just have to connect front/back lights and indicators/horn when get to that stage. Back to sanding n polishing/painting then. lol.
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Cant be to earth bud. Has to be a positive supply to cdi bud with a limited voltage through 100 ohm resister. undecided

Gixer cdi pack has a combined positive feed to cdi through switched live to coils feed pin. Set mine up same.

I`ll email you what I put to what later on to make sure Ive not cocked up. Grin

 
It's definately not a +ve feed bud. If you look at the bandit diagram for the ignition switch, in the on position it shows orange and yellow connects to black and white (earth). they dont show the resistor.  
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Reply #85 - 26. Oct 2009 at 10:26
 
Cheers leccy guru. Cool  Got yer bandit mot`d yet?
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Reply #86 - 26. Oct 2009 at 11:17
 
Not yet. Still not convinced the back brake is bled propperly. Might have to drill out the sheared bleed screw. aagghhh! just been told by a mechanic that you should soak em with penetrating oil and hit em with a hammer before trying to unsrew em. too late now.  cry
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Reply #88 - 26. Oct 2009 at 15:18
 
Saw previous owner today. Stood gassing about his current bike n him having few problems getting bits as import model, etc. Told him to log on OSS forum to ask for help locating bits, etc. Whats that he says, so just emailed him the link and the link for my bandit thread. Be interesting to see what he thinks when he goes on, as he`s not seen it since went in back of my hearse in pieces to get it home. lol.
 
Did warn him it had changed slightly. Tongue Grin
 
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Reply #89 - 26. Oct 2009 at 17:13
 
Completely unrelated, but had our daily runabout hearse down for its mot today n it sailed it.    Cool  Well chuffed as 20-odd year old n gets abused all year round with stock/kids/dog/mini-motos.  
 
Another year of winding up the deeply religious locals. Grin Grin Grin Grin Tongue
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Reply #90 - 26. Oct 2009 at 20:25
 
Sat with my wet n dry n autosol tonight n got one fork leg cleaned up:-
 

 
Not perfect, but pretty good. Had a shitload of scrapes n hammer/tarmac dings like engine casings, etc, but most of em sanded/polished out eventually:-
 

 
T`other one tomorrow night. I`ll slap some 2K black on lower yoke when get a chance too n can bolt em back up in next few days.
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Reply #91 - 26. Oct 2009 at 21:43
 
love what you have done with the bandit   can't wait to see at on the road well done  
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Thank god for that......................... yer a big bugger, and Im only ickle. Grin Grin Grin
 
Seriously tho, glad yer liking it. Can pop round for a look whenever bud. Know where I am. Grin
 
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Reply #93 - 29. Oct 2009 at 17:04
 
Bit slow with updates at mo. Made the stupid decision to not just paint bottom yoke, but dig out all the misc bits n bobs that were gonna need sprayed too n do em at same time while got paint gear out, etc.
 
Got sidetracked into brakes! Seemed like a good idea to strip em n paint em at same time as rest of wee bits n bobs.............
 
Could I fook get em apart! Lump hammer, centre punch, heat, WD40, vice grips, etc, etc. Those pad pins werent for budging!  Ended up cutting pad retaining pins in half with grinder/hacksaw. Still couldnt get pads out as they were rusted solid to pins! To cut a long story short a couple of evenings were spent grinding n drilling pins out of caliper bodys. Weird thing was brake pistons were clean n free and bleed nipples undone no probs too.
 
Got em apart tho:-
 

 
Pistons cleaned up perfect beneath smeg. In middle of spraying em at mo, but got new pads with bike so they`ll be going in all round:-
 

 
Sprayed bottom yoke up.  
 

 
Gonna airbrush it up along with brake calipers n assorted little brackets next few evenings. Might as well detail the we bits too. lol.
 
1/2 way through polishing up other fork leg too so will have all front end bits n bobs ready to bolt together in next few days. Opted to do back caliper now too tho to get it out of way.
 
Scored this intercooler of egay for £10 delivered.  
 

 
Dont quite need it yet, but was going cheap n gonna be needed further down line. Good clean up n brackets, etc n should look fine.
 
Bout it for now really till get front end bits together. Did have a 2 minute play on paint tho to roughly test out few ideas. Rough n ready but no time to sit for days doing it properly:-
 

 
Yantosh`s long braced B12 swingarm. Helmet nose fairing at front with lights inside as mentioned previously. Scoops at side of bike cover:-  on RHS the turbo side mounted on log manifold, and on LHS the intercooler mounted sideways n force fed airflow by scoop. Want smooth shrouded look overall and gives more bodywork for me to play with the airbrush on as got a `full on` mad idea for the bodywork. Muwahahahaha!!!!   Little bellypan, n Hayabusa-esque swingarm spoiler scoop finishes things off. Sorta stealth bomber long n low menacing look Im after at end of it all. Subject to change along the way, but liking the rough concept at mo.
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Reply #94 - 30. Oct 2009 at 11:52
 
Dunno if you got my e-mail about cooler J, but when i was up in the big shed looking for a sprocket cover for you (not there, Mud must have it on his 750) i found the bandit cooler, it's a bit bashed though, think someone put something on it in the shed. have a look when you come down. yours if you want it.
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Reply #95 - 30. Oct 2009 at 12:06
 
Easiest setup for me n Yantosh to work with as cant bring bike down to him n no-one locally as on a tiny island to make headers so have to rely on post.  
 
Log manifold places it at side of head at front. Easier gravity turbo oil drain to engine as high up n log manifold doesnt really restrict anything till high boost applications which Im not going for anyway. Biggest bonus is Im gonna avoid cracked headers like lotta blow thru bikes long term cos of turbo weight. Gonna take a big chunky bracket off engine cam-end bolts on head and use that to take turbo weight off headers.  Same other side to hold intercooler.
 
Force fed intercooler setup with it mounted side on on other side just seemed best option really looks wise. Sorta ram air scoop like lotta hotrods.
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Quote from Big_Bad_Bob on 30. Oct 2009 at 11:52:
Dunno if you got my e-mail about cooler J, but when i was up in the big shed looking for a sprocket cover for you (not there, Mud must have it on his 750) i found the bandit cooler, it's a bit bashed though, think someone put something on it in the shed. have a look when you come down. yours if you want it.

 
Cheers bud I`ll have a looksee. Bandit cooler small so would need 2 for gixer lump. L`s run pretty hot. Yantosh is digging about at his for a gixer one too. I`ll get Butler to do same. Sure can bodge together summit for it without spending stupid money on fancy cooler. Gonna be shrouded anyway so not seen. Wink
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Reply #97 - 01. Nov 2009 at 19:44
 
Sat this afternoon n put me front end bits back together.
 
Top yoke:-
 

 
Forks n stuff:-
 


 
Front calipers all cleaned up, painted, greased n new pads in, etc:-
 



 
Banjo bolts where rusty chrome so prepped n sprayed those too to cheers em up a bit.  
 
Made new pad pins out of old imperial allen keys. Old trick Ive used for years on brakes. Hexagonal section doesnt seize in countersunk holes. Cut to length leaving a decent size bit sticking out to get hold of with vice grips, unlike originals! Notch with grinder/hacksaw for R-clip n bobs yer uncle. Free, not gonna seize in there, n good quality steel.
 

 
Sprayed up the wee steel clips n mudguard brackets, etc while at it:-
 

 
Some of yer might have noticed the black section on the fork photos above. Been looking about for offcuts of steel/plastic pipe to slip over pitted sections n cant find owt locally n not paying for it. lol.
 
Tried a bit of black gaffer tape on with join at rear edge n actually looks nice n tidy! Not gonna see much of it when nose fairing on anyway so might run with it to disguise pitted/rusty top sections. Nice textured gloss finish n hard wearing too.................. and free. lol.:-
 

 
Onto the back brake bits next as sprayed up caliper at same time as rest of bits, oh and the horn too as was rusty as hell. Not gonna be seen, but not having rust on the bike. lol.:-
 


 
Give everything a good clean up n slap in new pad pins and pads, etc like front.
 
Oh yeah n bolt front end back on too of course. Doh! lol.
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Quote from Big_Bad_Bob on 30. Oct 2009 at 11:52:
Dunno if you got my e-mail about cooler J, but when i was up in the big shed looking for a sprocket cover for you (not there, Mud must have it on his 750) i found the bandit cooler, it's a bit bashed though, think someone put something on it in the shed. have a look when you come down. yours if you want it.


Cheers bud I`ll have a looksee. Bandit cooler small so would need 2 for gixer lump. L`s run pretty hot. Yantosh is digging about at his for a gixer one too. I`ll get Butler to do same. Sure can bodge together summit for it without spending stupid money on fancy cooler. Gonna be shrouded anyway so not seen. Wink

 
Yeah. i put the teapot cooler on my L conversion for the same reason and it still runs pretty hot, keeps my knees warm tho.  Tongue
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Reply #100 - 02. Nov 2009 at 15:51
 
The calipers look a hell of a lot better  Shocked
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Reply #101 - 02. Nov 2009 at 16:19
 
Yeah just a bit bud. Grin Pistons move freely n in good shape. Just the rest that was rusted solid into a big ball of orange. Dont like taking grinders n drills to brake parts, but were baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. undecided cry
 
Should be fine now tho. All pins replaced or ground smooth n lubed up, etc. Everything sliding like meant to, n looking slightly better. Cool
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Reply #102 - 03. Nov 2009 at 17:01
 
Nother wee bitty today.  
 
Back caliper hanging on bungee as nowhere to put it yet. Getting well excited about my new swingarm tho. Few feet of alloy to polish n fondle. Muwuhahahahaha............
 

 
Put the piccy up tho to show I did actually airbrush the back of the caliper too cos will be visable through wheel from other side.
 
Back mastercylinder and reservoir cleaned up bolted back on:-
 

 
Needs a new brake light switch, but I`ll get one somepoint when ordering other odds n sods.
 
Mounted the freshly painted horn under the tank as a handy spot out of sight and a nice convenient mounting there from original suzuki breather air valve thingy that I dumped when changed engine. lol.
 

 
Front forks back on. Dropped em through the top yoke as far as could till hit the bars. Only bout an inch or so. Would have liked more, but back end will be slammed down so extra rake n stability in straight line aint a bad thing. Starting to look like more of a bike now:-
 

 
Was happy with the look. till me gorgeous missus came out for a look n thought my gaffer tape on the fork tops looked shite............. so under order to re-do it better. lol.  
 
Theres an exhaust place up town (45 miles away!) that stocks length of pipe. Nowt`s easy up here for parts! Couple of quid should net me some wee bits of tube to airbrush up and slide over fork legs to neaten em up. I`ll get some next time up there for shopping. Unbolt top yoke n slide em on so no biggy and will look better ultimately. Like the black look tho of the fork tops n hides the crappy pitted sections.
 
Looks like Im onto wheels next as next to no wee bits left to clean up. Wheels are gonna take some graft to get looking nice tho. Rough as fook, but no worse than rest was n think its coming along nice. Well I like it anyway. lol.
 
 
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Reply #103 - 03. Nov 2009 at 17:58
 
+1 on wot missus says m8, i cant tell if looks shite from here but will still be just tape around legs and a shame seeing all the rest of the hard work.
have ya thought maybe using some ally tubes?
also is the atnk gonna hit the horn?
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Reply #104 - 03. Nov 2009 at 20:36
 
Nowhere to get alloy tube bud up ere. Steel tube from exhaust place up town is closest thing n 45 miles each way. Roll Eyes undecided  Makes life interesting tryna build stuff up ere. Grin  Tank shouldnt hit horn, but can bend about/remake the bracket if needs be easy enuf. Was just a handy spot out of the way.
 
Fork tubes were annoying me tho so went back out to shed n came accross couple of dried up part tubes of silicone sealant. Been sat in wee shed since moved in couple years back n god know how many years before that. lol.
 

 
Mixed with the old bandit headlight bracket rubbers:-
 

 
Chop rubbers in half, cut off ends of silicone tubes, clean out dried up silicone/plunger, etc, simmer for 1/2 hour and serve:-
 

 
Need about 4mm trimmed off n sanded/painted/airbrushed up.  
 

 
Sturdy enuf for covers tho and only bout 2mm bigger than fork legs internally so nice snug fit and most importantly........................FREE!   lol.
 
Linz has started to call me Orinocho. Could be worse I suppose. Could be Uncle Bulgaria! lol.
 
No sign of my intercooler yet cos of post strikes. Hey ho. £265 spent all in so far tho when it turns up.
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Reply #105 - 03. Nov 2009 at 20:43
 
remember your a womble  Grin
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Reply #106 - 03. Nov 2009 at 22:04
 
Nowt wrong with Wombles. Grin
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